camaronovice69
12/15/2007 5:47:17 AM
whats the biggest engine you can drop in a chevy: camaro, chevelle, NOVA?
FlightMechYJ68
12/15/2007 7:52:13 AM
Well, are looking for comfort or hp? I could fit a Rolce Royce Turbine Jet engine in one, but it depends if you actually want to sit in the car or on the car while you drive.... That and if you want it to look like a Camaro when you are done...
z28pete
12/15/2007 8:33:29 AM
The turbine is a bit of overkill, but sounds interesting. However; I am kinda partial to the 1710 CU (28L), 3200 HP Allison V12. Problem is you will have to drive from the back seat, but it has a bitch of a cooling fan. LOL
The V-1710 is a conventional overhead cam liquid cooled Vee-type engine with 4-valve pentagon roof combustion chambers using two 6-cylinder monoblocks bolted to a split crankcase. The engine has a propeller reduction gear or extension drive on the "grunt" of the engine as defined by Allison and an auxiliary case on the rear. Cylinders were numbered from the rear, with the bank to the left when viewed from the rear (auxiliary section) called the left bank and the other bank the right. Unlike automotive engines, the cylinders were numbered 1L to 6L on the left and 1R to 6R on the right, 1L being the the cylinder next to the auxiliary drive on the side of the coolant pump, the 1R cylinder being located next to the auxiliary section above the oil pump.
Type:
12 cylinder 60° Vee liquid cooled
Cylinders:
Bore 5.5 in (139.7 mm), Stroke 6 in (152.4 mm), Displacement 1,710 cubic inches (28 liters). Compression ratio 6.0:1 (other versions typically use 6.65:1). Two cylinder blocks of six cylinders each comprising a cast aluminum-alloy cylinder head, six hardened steel cylinder barrels and a cast aluminum-alloy cooling jacket. Barrels held in head by a shrink-fit and are enclosed by coolant jacket. Jacket secured to head by studs and to cylinder by nut threaded over each barrel (and torqued to 2,200 ft-lbs!). Each cylinder-block secured to upper half of crankcase by 14 studs extending through the head. Combustion chamber has two intake and two exhaust valves and two diametrically opposed park plugs. Steel intake valve inserts, forged steel stellite-faced exhaust valve inserts.
Pistons:
Machined from aluminum-alloy forgings. Three compression rings above piston pin -- one keystone ring in the top groove and two conventional rings, and two oil-control rings in a single groove below. Floating piston pin retained by snap-rings at each end.
Connecting Rods:
Fork and blade type made from steel forgings machined and shot-peened. Connecting rod bearings consist of two flanged steel thin shells lined with nickel-silver-tin, and clamped in the forked end by two bearing caps. Center portion of the outside diameter of the bearing is covered with an overlay of nickel-silver-tin which acts as journal for the blade rod. Blade rod fits around the overlay and is held in place by a single steel cap. Bronze bearing pressed into the small end for the piston pin. Big-end bearings lubricated under pressure from crankshaft, small-end bearing lubricated by splash.
Crankshaft:
Counter-balanced six-throw seven-bearing type. Each end of the shaft has a bolt flange which provide mountings at the front for a flexible splined coupling for driving the reduction gear pinion and at the rear for a dynamic torsional vibration balancer. Splined to the hub of the dynamic balancer is the outer member of a hydraulic damper. An inner member is connected to the outer rigid member by a flexible quill shaft and reacts against the outer member through a hydraulic fluid to minimize single-node
1969 SS
12/15/2007 8:46:55 AM
I think a T-700 GE Turbofan engine would fit and you could still keep your front seats in place. a guy from California, put an older Vietnam era version in a new VW Bug last year and he still kept most of his interior stock
Camaro 69
12/15/2007 9:02:36 AM
Those are all such very good suggestions!
But I'll bet he may be looking for sumpin that will drop in the hole he already has. How big you wanna go has to do with how much you wanna spend. As an example, at Summit you can get a complete 572 big block crate motor for a measly $12k. But don't forget that the rest of the drivetrain (trans, driveshaft, rearend, suspension), has to be built up to take the high h.p. All in all, you should be able to do it for somewhere in the $20k range! Now you still wanna go big?
buckfever
12/15/2007 11:41:27 AM
ive always thought it would be cool to put a duramax and twin turbo it in a chevelle or nova or something.. just sounds cool to me i guess..
daltons 1980
12/15/2007 2:55:53 PM
camaronovice69
12/15/2007 7:40:42 PM
guys im really starting to like the 1710 CU (28L), 3200 HP Allison V12.
. you people are out of your damn minds. lol. 1. i dont have that kind of money and 2...... maby i should try it....lol
z28pete
12/15/2007 8:51:54 PM
buckfever
12/15/2007 9:06:07 PM
that impala is sweet.. he took my idea.
Ircyklops
12/16/2007 9:36:06 AM
I guess that depends on what you mean by the 'biggest engine'. Do you actually mean physical external size...or just cubic inches and still retain a chevy block?
P.S. (If you are looking for MASS, I can hook you up with a submarine or jet junkyard where you can really get a huge engine...)
camaronovice69
12/16/2007 4:51:08 PM
come on guys thats the biggest engine i can fit? i was thinkin something like a cruise ship engine
camaronovice69
12/18/2007 7:44:58 PM
whats the best engine i can drop in there for under 5K? i just bought my nova 3 weeks ago and ran some tests on it only to find that the #6 and #7 cam loabs are effing flat as a pancake. its bullsh#t.
z28pete
12/18/2007 8:52:36 PM
A 350 or a 383 will probably give you the most bang for the buck for under 5G. Flat lifter cams do wear out, especially if the oil and filter were not changed often enough or if they were of poor quality.
camaronovice69
12/19/2007 10:49:44 AM
well the f*cker that i bought it from said the engine had just been rebuilt with all new cams. but i guess they werent broke in right
z28pete
12/19/2007 3:19:36 PM
If the cam uses flat lifters, the lobes could have been easily ruined when the engine first started up, if the proper cam break in procedure was not used.
1990CamaroRS
12/20/2007 10:28:09 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: camaronovice69
whats the best engine i can drop in there for under 5K?
for $5k, you can get a fully built 454 HO from GM performance
camaronovice69
12/20/2007 2:49:15 PM
today i tried to start the engine up and i heard the loudest pop. it sounded like a gunshot in my ear. what was that?
Camaro 69
12/20/2007 3:17:03 PM
Just to be safe, have you checked to make sure you don't have any blood dripping from your ear?
It depends where the pop came from...carb or exhaust, or did something let loose internally. Kinda hard to hear it from here!
camaronovice69
12/21/2007 11:58:32 AM
im surprised you didnt hear it. the rest of the world heard it. all my neighbors thought someone got shot. should i try to start it again?
Jr. Mechanic
12/22/2007 11:01:10 AM
It was just a backfire.
camaronovice69
12/23/2007 12:23:04 PM
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