I WANT MORE HORSEPOWER!

Sell it and buy a V8!  Or be another riced out camaro.

how does getting more HP make it a riced out lol...

i'd go with getting a new exhaust (2.5-3inch) flowmaster, cool air intake, thats what i got on mine and mines fast enuff

I have ordered a cool air intake off of ebay, with K&N Filter and already Have Flowmasters Dual Exhuast, 3inch, i was just checkin for anything else

Headers, Pulley-set, high-flow cat, a programmer...

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ORIGINAL: shnormo

Sell it and buy a V8!  Or be another riced out camaro.

I <3 my V6....Im not sure why you would  bash this engine....its actually a great little engine that provides a nice git up and go.....

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ORIGINAL: jtvyper456

Headers, Pulley-set, high-flow cat, a programmer...

HEADERS: http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/performance/basket.php?makeid=5&modelid=30&year=1997&partid=24&brandid=3013
 
 
PULLEY: http://www.machperformanceparts.com/mp/4050.html, ,

Will this work FOR me?
 
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!
DOW

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Sell it and buy a V8!  Or be another riced out camaro.

i agree with shnormo. Theres nothing like a v8 camaro. You dont necessarily have to sell it. I would just find a project v8 camaro for a few hundred bucks and go from there. Then you have the style of a fourth gen and the power of a v8 camaro. And they are out there. Right now I know where there is an 89 IROC Z with 350 TPI and the guy only wants like  700 bucks for it. I just bought a 79 RS. Now Ive Had a Third Gen, Fourth Gen, and Second Gen.

the 3800 series II was on the ward top engines list for 3 years...one of GMs best engines.

theres lots of 6ers that take stock LT1's.  Dont get me wrong there's no replacement for a V8, but dont underestimate the 3.8.  I dont know how many times i've been asked if I have the LT1 or the LS1.  Get Headers, Catback, Hi flow cat, K&N CAI, ignition and some N20...all that will be under 1K and will get you into the mid to low 14's
i just thought i'd add that the 3.8 has more hp than all the 80's maro V8's except the 350 tpi

you said it's an RS?  where's the gfx?  is it the Y87?

everything everybody has said is true however seeing how you through the exclamation point at the end there if ure looking in to spending alot of money get a supercharger this will give like a 50% horsepower boost
 
 
 

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ORIGINAL: BigNic

everything everybody has said is true however seeing how you through the exclamation point at the end there if ure looking in to spending alot of money get a supercharger this will give like a 50% horsepower boost

yea just grab some wrenches and bolt it on

Before you go supercharging there are many supporting upgrades you will have to perform FIRST. You can make very respectable HP from a 3.8 but for the money involved i wonder if it wouldnt be cheaper to just find a wrecked maro with a solid LTI and put it in your car?  But either way there will always be faster cars, its the time and how much of yourself you put into the car that counts.  Have fun , personally i dont think there's anything more satisfying.

yea...but V8 swap would be a BITCH

I like my V6...its not the fastest, but hell its a camaro and I guess it gives me pride building something unique

and yes...the 3.8 has lots of potential, theres 11sec's out there and lots of 12's as well

Yeah it would be kind of a bitch, just a thought though, but your right 3.8's do have alot of potential and like i said you can make very respectable HP numbers from them.  My first camaro was a 3.8 and I loved it.

so...from someone whose owned both engines...difference between a 6er and LS1...night/day i'd assume

Well there is a notable difference when you touch the gas , but there's also a little over 100hp difference.  Im so used to my car though that I dont even notice, now when I bought the car I was impressed.  I tend to notice my car more if I've been driving something else for a while and then jump in mine. 

I was thinking about the question, "what can be done to make a 3.4/3.8 a little faster with out spending to much money!" Also safely. Well, other than your standard hop-ups like ECU reflash and/or piggybacks, exhaust, and some type of air intake system- I would go with a fogger shot of NOS (Nitrous Oxide System). The brand I would recomend and have used myself is "ZEX". It uses a module that no matter what the bottle pressure is, it will adjust according to the pressure and supply the right amount of fuel. NOS systems are safe if use and installed properly and they are not that expensive. The problem is- because it is less expensive, typically it has fallen into the wrong hands and has been abused. For a V6 I would not use anything more than a 75-100HP shot of NOS because of cylinder pressure would be to high for a 6 cyl. and detonation could occure (supposing you know about detonation and its destruction to an engine) and would require to forge an engine. Superchargers and turbochargers can cause catostrophic falure as well so dont use an alternative means of forced induction becuase of relyabilty, they all can some how blow your engine if not careful. When you add horsepower you could add trouble, but with a little knolege and patience it is a whole lot of fun. Now granted a V8 is ulimatley a good way to go, but that was not the question. I use NOS on my 94 3.4L V6 and I am pushing approx. 320BHP out of it. I have a fogger shot and 1 heat range colder plug and it runs like a BAT-OUT-OF-HELL! But I also have a 03 Nissan 350Z w/ a Greddy twin turbo set up and an SS camaro pushing 575WHP and thats a whole lot of fun. Remember there is no exact figure(s) just rules of thumb(s) so educate yourself and ask lots of questions before you buy!

NOS is a brand...N20 is nitrous oxide

50-75 dry shot on a stock 3.8, you might get away w/ a 100 shot but it would be unsafe

No, actually if you pull some timing out you can run up to 125HP shot of nitrous on a 6 cyl. The BTU (british thermal units) raised would be only 38 percent which the 6 cyl. could withstand close to 44 percent and still be in the safe zone. 1 heat range cooler plug and the stock ECU could detect detonation and pull enough timing out for 75-100 with of coarse the proper fuel supply. Yes, I know the formula for nitrous and yes, I do know the brand name NOS, ZEX, VENOM, NX(nitrous express) etc. NOS typically is said for slang for when you are runing nitrous- like some others GAS, FOG, SPRAY for some other examples. And also, the person who was asking the question was looking for some alternatives to increase horsepower. I like joing forums to help people and only would I correct someone if I know for sure they are absolutely wrong and I could back my statement. Remember increasing horsepower can be complex and there are so many different ways to do it. It requires a great deal of experience and knowledge, But thats best part of this hobby!!! Sometimes you have to just dive right in.

I apologize for my last statement, I just recently left another forum because I felt every time I would make a statement to help someone, somebody always has something negative to say.  So, I hope that my first paragragh was to of some help for anyone out there!! No harm intened folks!!

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ORIGINAL: badinfluenceRS

NOS is a brand...N20 is nitrous oxide

50-75 dry shot on a stock 3.8, you might get away w/ a 100 shot but it would be unsafe

I would not recomend a dry shot for simplistic application because the fueling would then have to come from the fuel injectors only. That then would require some type major fueling demand- piggyback, high volume fuel pump, etc to be able to lengthen the injector pulse width and volume. The injectors then may exceed there duty cycle if not up graded to larger ones. For street and safe application I would definitely recomend a fogger system. That injects nitrous and fuel out of the same nozzle into the air intake system and would not require any major or complicated fuel up grades. The fuel is tapped into the existing system and the additional fuel needed is there without disturbing the factory ECU's fuel map. Plus, this way you can take advantage of fuel "venturi' because F.I. systems and T.P.I. (tuned port injection) and M.P.I. (multi port injection) uses a dry air intake system. Carburetors utilize fuel venturi when wet fuel is runing through the intake manifold it cools down the chamber and creates leveled VE (volume efficiency). If you are planing to use dry shot- then you probably know exactly what you are doing and you are by far not a newbie because it is involved. 

For added hp, and when i buy a car right off the bat, I do the following:

New headers
new header-back exhaust
high flow cat
light-weight pulleys
cold air or ram air intake(depending on weather/car/etc)
underdrive pulley

With the right combo that can net you anywhere from 20-40% hp boost.

Also, modified ecu or chipped ecu to adjust the a/f ratio, new plugs/wires, high pressure fuel pump, bigger injectors can do a world of wonder.

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ORIGINAL: Deuce

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ORIGINAL: badinfluenceRS

NOS is a brand...N20 is nitrous oxide

50-75 dry shot on a stock 3.8, you might get away w/ a 100 shot but it would be unsafe

I would not recomend a dry shot for simplistic application because the fueling would then have to come from the fuel injectors only. That then would require some type major fueling demand- piggyback, high volume fuel pump, etc to be able to lengthen the injector pulse width and volume. The injectors then may exceed there duty cycle if not up graded to larger ones. For street and safe application I would definitely recomend a fogger system. That injects nitrous and fuel out of the same nozzle into the air intake system and would not require any major or complicated fuel up grades. The fuel is tapped into the existing system and the additional fuel needed is there without disturbing the factory ECU's fuel map. Plus, this way you can take advantage of fuel "venturi' because F.I. systems and T.P.I. (tuned port injection) and M.P.I. (multi port injection) uses a dry air intake system. Carburetors utilize fuel venturi when wet fuel is runing through the intake manifold it cools down the chamber and creates leveled VE (volume efficiency). If you are planing to use dry shot- then you probably know exactly what you are doing and you are by far not a newbie because it is involved. 

stock fuel system is good for 75 dry shot...100 you'll most likely need upgrades

oh and I wasn't trying to be negative...

a kid i went to highschool with had an Rs he was all  excited on how fast it went just dont pull up to any v8's and race. stick  with volvo's and vans that should be enough. i dont like to lose so i only race school buses ,hey how many people do you know that can beat a vehicle with 500 hp with a pretty stock car..

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ORIGINAL: badinfluenceRS

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ORIGINAL: Deuce

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ORIGINAL: badinfluenceRS

NOS is a brand...N20 is nitrous oxide

50-75 dry shot on a stock 3.8, you might get away w/ a 100 shot but it would be unsafe

I would not recomend a dry shot for simplistic application because the fueling would then have to come from the fuel injectors only. That then would require some type major fueling demand- piggyback, high volume fuel pump, etc to be able to lengthen the injector pulse width and volume. The injectors then may exceed there duty cycle if not up graded to larger ones. For street and safe application I would definitely recomend a fogger system. That injects nitrous and fuel out of the same nozzle into the air intake system and would not require any major or complicated fuel up grades. The fuel is tapped into the existing system and the additional fuel needed is there without disturbing the factory ECU's fuel map. Plus, this way you can take advantage of fuel "venturi' because F.I. systems and T.P.I. (tuned port injection) and M.P.I. (multi port injection) uses a dry air intake system. Carburetors utilize fuel venturi when wet fuel is runing through the intake manifold it cools down the chamber and creates leveled VE (volume efficiency). If you are planing to use dry shot- then you probably know exactly what you are doing and you are by far not a newbie because it is involved. 

stock fuel system is good for 75 dry shot...100 you'll most likely need upgrades

oh and I wasn't trying to be negative...

I know! just a stressful day at the work place! But things are looking good now, I think this guy and I are going to settle on a 92 camaro so I can put this 496 in that I am presently building right know. He is just sticking to his guns. Car looks great, little rust, but the interior is in bad shape. It's being ripped out anyways. Also, I am pulling the Greddy turbos off the Z, somebody bought'em and I am putting her back to stock. I am going to put the money into the racecar. Whew! I am exhausted this week.