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chaeridley
10/1/2006 1:32:23 AM
After cruising in my car, and turning it off, the car won't start. I crank, but the car makes 0 noises. I replaced the starter and put a heat shield on it. Still have the problem, if not worse now. What wires, sensors, and other things could I check that would be attributed to this hot start problem?
uncle bill
10/1/2006 1:55:57 AM
It's probably in the distributer. Magnetic Pickup or Module.
chaeridley
10/1/2006 3:12:15 AM
No. If the module is bad, the car simply won't fire, but it cranks. It will just crank and crank. I've had like 10 modules go out. That's a different story. I think....
uncle bill
10/1/2006 6:13:36 AM
I've experienced, with different vehicles, that when the module gets hot, it won't start untill the module cools down. Some kind of breakdown in the internal electronics. It's cheap enough, so replace it.
chaeridley
10/1/2006 6:26:20 PM
So maybe it's the module causing the problem? As I turn the key, there is no cranking. It's complete silence.
SickSickSick
10/1/2006 7:09:38 PM
the starter not turning over has nothing to do with the ignition module or any distributor part. if you had not already replaced the starter i would say it's the solenoid. but since that isn't the case. you need to check all the wiring connections. something is loosing ground when it gets heated up. Sick
chaeridley
10/1/2006 8:12:11 PM
So check all the wires that deal with the starter? Any help on identifing that?
SickSickSick
10/2/2006 6:38:23 PM
the only time i've ever experienced what your describing it was a bad solenoid. since that isn't the case. i would start tightening all the wire connections like the battery ground on the engine and body. the hot lead that connects to the alternator and such. Sick
FlufyTiger
10/3/2006 4:48:02 AM
Sick makes a good point here, but while you're at it, take it a step further and check the wires for continuity, and clean any dirty connections with a wire brush and some baking soda and water.
1983camaro
10/3/2006 7:11:54 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: chaeridley
No. If the module is bad, the car simply won't fire, but it cranks. It will just crank and crank. I've had like 10 modules go out. That's a different story. I think....
then if it cranks and cranks and cranks, check the coil pack on the side of the distributor, if thats loose your motor will crank and crank and crank. get a new one .
1983camaro
10/3/2006 7:15:36 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: chaeridley
So maybe it's the module causing the problem? As I turn the key, there is no cranking. It's complete silence.
so now it doesnt crank at all? check the starter, solenoid, and replace the modules on the distributor. one day the 83 i had would not start after i put the distributor cap back on, later i sold the car ( it would not crank at all) come to find out it WAS a module inside the distributor. so check it. could be burnt out.
uncle bill
10/3/2006 10:08:03 AM
Typically, if it won't crank at all, It's Battery / Starter related. That's where You have to look. The Charging system may be suspect also. If the battery is weak ( after cranking for awhile and drawing it down ) and Your charging system ( Alternator, Etc ) isn't doing its job, then it will not crank. Start by having the battery and starter tested.
chaeridley
10/3/2006 6:05:33 PM
What about something to do with the ignition and the key. Something about when I turn the key, the rod isn't making a good connection. Does that sound right?
1983camaro
10/3/2006 6:17:20 PM
not to be a tool but why dont you talk to a local mechanic who knows what there talking about. Not to say any one on here doesnt . it would be a better thing to do .
chaeridley
10/3/2006 7:36:15 PM
I've been to 2 mechanics and they told me starter. They changed it and it just takes longer to start now. Another one told me that it was the ignition. Which I'm pretty sure it's not. THey were just guessing.
1983camaro
10/3/2006 7:40:00 PM
i would pay them and have them fix because all your gonna get on here is guessing as to what it is, if the car means anything to you . pay a couple hundred to have it fixed
FlufyTiger
10/3/2006 10:54:48 PM
Go to another mechanic. If they didn't bench test the old starter before they put a new one on they are either:
A. Incompetent
B. Rushing to get you in and out and make money.
C. Some combination of A and B.
There's alot more to the starting system than the starter. Check connections on the cables, and cable integrity. Get someone to bench test the old starter if none of that works, and if it's good, and you still can't fix it, you'd do well to get someone to fix it for you, but not the people who did the recent starter replacement.
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