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fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/21/2008 7:28:14 AM   
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ive got a 92 rs  tbi thats got me stumped couple times is randomly would not start and finally the other day after driving in a big rain storm took it home and went inside real quick went out and she would not start just power no crank so i immediatly went to the starter relay jumped it and it cranks now but still wont turn over i can here the fuel pump prime when i turn the key but when i crank it and look it the throttle body dont see and gas spraying? is it a problem with the key or the computer idk? and ideas
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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/21/2008 7:41:18 AM   
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Sounds to me like it''s possibly the passlock security in the ignition (key or module). Do a search here, I know the subject on diagnosis/bypass has been covered more than once. Do you have a second key to the car by chance? Try it and see if it works.

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/22/2008 1:04:21 PM   
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dont have a second key gona try and change the ignition switch thought it might be that it does not have any type of security system that i know of

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/22/2008 1:35:56 PM   
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Look at your key. There will be a small pelet in it (black plastic with a silver metal strip). Make sure that is clean. And still in it!

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/23/2008 5:01:18 AM   
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i tried to get the resistance from the key to bypass it with a resistor but  could not get a reading so im gonna go try and get a new one made today  hope fully a locksmith can do it and i dont have to go to the stealership

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/23/2008 9:55:08 AM   
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Some hardware stores (I know ACE did) can cut you a new key. They have a small "resistance reader" box where they slide your key into a slot and it tells which is the correct resistance key blank to use. Of course, that''s as long as they can still get some sort of reading from your key.

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/23/2008 10:05:47 AM   
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did they put passlock on cars this old? I know my 01 grand am has it and its nothing but a PITA. its pretty common for the computer to just " forget " which key runs it and you have to go through a relearning process( lock twice, unlock, turn key to on for 10 or 12 mins, turn key off and start). its stupid. i wish GM would get rid of it or fix the damn thing.

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/23/2008 10:20:36 AM   
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did they put passlock on cars this old?

Yep, my ''91 has it. Technically though, the older system is called VATS. Newer systems were called Passlock.
I found this, it could be helpful as a bypass fix:
http://www.audiovox.com/manuals/installation/128-6011A_IM.pdf


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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/23/2008 10:25:47 AM   
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yea i knew of VATS. alright at least thats cleared up

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RE: fuel pump working no fuel in tb? - 6/23/2008 10:50:02 AM   
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before i went and got a new key decided to check the lock cylinder did all that took  that pita lock plate out and sure enough one of the vats wires was cut so i soldered it back togeather and she started right up thanks for all the help guys

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