RE: COME ON PEOPLE
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RE: COME ON PEOPLE - 11/22/2005 8:53:30 PM
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Lee Willis
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I never respond to any challenges on the street, no matter how. I'm 56 and the last time I raced on the street, even for a second or two, was about 20 years ago. It just can get you into so much trouble, so fast. I know (knew) one guy who killed himself at 22, have seen others end up hurt, or in jail, or both. Street racing is just a prescirption to get in big trouble very fast. Takes a lot of discipline, but we have fun anyway. We have QTP electric cutouts on both the 'vette or the Camaro and they are about the most entertaining thing on the cars. I often have fun at a light - little rice burner will pull up alongside and pipe me or my son and we just open the cutouts while keeping it at idle and then blip the throttle good -- its gets LOUD. Scares them. The most fun is when my youngest son and I go out together cruising at night in the Camaro and the 'vette. Two LS engined cars with a combined 1300 RWHP. As the Beach Boys said, "The bad guys know us and they leave us alone."
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RE: COME ON PEOPLE - 11/23/2005 9:55:36 PM
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Lee Willis
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Actually, it is cool to have a quiet car. The 'vette is surprisingly quiet most of the time: with the cutouts closed it is quiet. Porblem is that dyno testsindiucate "quiet"costs 29 RWHPm- 565 closed (through the mufflers) versus 594 RWHP with the cutouts open. Actually, I cant; tell the difference from inside the car, although it makes about .1 seciond diference in timed runs. But tjhe Porsche is very cool aqnd people don't give them credit: it came from the factory with a "sport exhaust" that has a switich on the dashboard. Hit it to turn it "off" and the engine is quiet as a V6Accoard, leave it on and the back half of the mufflers are cut out, ad its raspy and loud::: i turn it on each morning before heading to work at 6:30 -- figure it helps the neighbors. I had it dynoed and the "loud" mopde, with the mufflers cut outk, adds on 4-5 RWHP, but, every bit helps.
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RE: COME ON PEOPLE - 11/24/2005 12:50:41 AM
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MYIROCPLX
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ahha i actually got replies!! ya i dont have a car yet lol i take my license test a week from today though!! but today i saw my dream car it was AWESOME.. It was a 1968 Z28 camaro MINT. it was for sale but the guy wanted $38500!! a lil above my price range. But this summer i have a job commercail fishing in alaska so i hope to make like 10K then buy lik ea 68 camaro that is pretty nice. any pointers?
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RE: COME ON PEOPLE - 11/24/2005 9:11:42 AM
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Lee Willis
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A '68 Camaro as a first car? You have good taste MYIROCPLX. I love '68s - they are good looking after all these years, light, and when well-restored, delightful to drive. The first new car I ever bought was a '68 327 Camaro and I am particularly fond of them for that reason. Frankly, I'd wait until you are in a position to spend what it will cost to make run safe and well. Owning one that runs and is reliable will not be cheap. I'd strongly recommend something like a 95-96 Camaro: a lot newer, easier to get the right parts for it, and much less trouble to find parts that fit. All manner of very expensive things are wrong on any but a restored 37 year old car - in additional to all the things that you would think of: drive train, electrics, radiators, bushings, tie rod ends, steering gears, etc., etc., etc., things you don't think of are worn: the brake lines are likely shot (yes, eventually brake lines wear out): it takes skill and money, or money and more money to hire someone skilled, to do it right, and you can't mess around with it -- breakes are critical. The actual wiring harness throughout the car will likely also be shot (they ususally are when the car gets to be about 40 years) and the whole harness might need to be replaced or you will spend the next few years with one maddening electrical glitch after another. Repl;acement is not terribly expensive (under $2K for all the parts), but takes a lot of effort and patience, AND a place where you can just leave the car for weeks as you slowly go through replacing all the wires, the sockets, the clips, the fittings, etc. ((Or again, you can hire it done, but that IS expensive). Finally, if you buy a '68 you should set aside some money for parts that won't fit, and make sure you know someone REALLY knowledgeable on chevys. After 37 years any Camaro you can afford will have been repaired/upgraded/re-fitted with some later parts: when you go to repair or replace your car, you'll buy the part you think should fit only to find that no, somewhere along the line someone upgraded that and it needs a different part - but which one? Anything from about 1963 through 1990 would fit, and you just never know: finding out is costly and requires real saavy. Example: the rear main seals on the engine (even a exactly stock looking engine) could be any of several types, depending on if and when someone dropped a replacement or had it rebuilt: anything from '63 through about mid to late 80s would fit and you just don't know. This will be particularly frustrating.
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RE: COME ON PEOPLE - 12/23/2005 8:07:50 PM
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mattvogt
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Lee, didnt you say that you had a 68 once. Two kids killed themselves 9 months ago in my town for going 120 with nos around a sharp turn, They were drunk and hit a tree. I know what you mean.
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