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RE: who would win? - 12/2/2005 7:00:33 PM    yamahaSHO   Posts: 9 Joined: 12/2/2005 From: Denver, CO Status: offline Nice dyno I could have some fun around track in that. I'm guessing it is setup for straight line racing? I've built my share of powerful motors, so I'm not oblivious as to what can be done. Do you have any pictures of your setup, I'm interested. I don't see how the RWD set up on the Camaro is going to lose less through the the drive train. FF or MR only has a tranny and halfshafts, where a FR has a long drive shaft to go through, simply turning more rotating mass. I'm losing roughly 17% through my driveline on FWD. Without the Quaife, figures would be more like 15%. Looking at the Corvette forums, they say a good rule of thumb for drive train loss is 15% - 20% depending on transmission type. That's pretty much what I expected. As far as your comparison... Dyno's vary, dramitically in some cases. The video I posted clearly showed what happens with a pretty much stock SHO versus a stock 305 Camaro. As you can see, it really wasn't an exciting race. < Message edited by yamahaSHO -- 12/2/2005 7:06:25 PM > _____________________________ Jason 2002 Honda Civic EX Coupe 1992 Taurus SHO 1995 Taurus SHO - Supercharged (in reply to Lee Willis) Post #: 31

RE: who would win? - 12/8/2005 11:45:46 AM    Patrick Posts: 349 Joined: 3/17/2005 Status: offline i have a neighbor with a SHO, same gen as yours, and its a manual trans..or it sounds like it..its so beat up..i coudlnt imagine it beating my lawn mower. honestly, you have one of the few really nice SHOs that i have seen..it seems that no one took care of them. (in reply to yamahaSHO) Post #: 32

RE: who would win? - 12/8/2005 9:02:22 PM    yamahaSHO   Posts: 9 Joined: 12/2/2005 From: Denver, CO Status: offline You're right, a lot of them are beat up. I paid more than my car was worth 3.5 years ago just so I could have a nice one. My white SHO was purchased with a blown motor and I've been fixing stuff since. There are a few around that are still in great shape. We've got 5 SC SHO's in CO alone and they are all in great shape. My buddies race SHO is putting out around 700hp and is considerably lighter than a stock SHO. Even with track tires that are 10" wide, it still breaks them loose in 3rd. Not too bad for a 3.2L with the stock rods and crank. Thanks for the compliments! _____________________________ Jason 2002 Honda Civic EX Coupe 1992 Taurus SHO 1995 Taurus SHO - Supercharged (in reply to Patrick) Post #: 33

RE: who would win? - 12/9/2005 1:41:54 PM    85Camarodude Posts: 116 Joined: 5/8/2005 From: NC Status: offline who cares which engine is better...lmao who would want to fix up a taurus?!?!? maybe my granny or married man just the idea that someone is refering to a taurus racing is hilarious i love you guys (in reply to yamahaSHO) Post #: 34

RE: who would win? - 12/9/2005 3:32:06 PM    nj85z28 Posts: 1080 Joined: 1/24/2005 Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: 85Camarodude who cares which engine is better...lmao who would want to fix up a taurus?!?!? maybe my granny or married man just the idea that someone is refering to a taurus racing is hilarious i love you guys Nascar races the Taurus _____________________________ New Jersey F-Body Owners Association Member CamaroForums.com Moderator PontiacTalk.com Moderator ClubGP Member #22259 ******************************************** (in reply to 85Camarodude) Post #: 35

RE: who would win? - 12/10/2005 8:52:29 PM    85Camarodude Posts: 116 Joined: 5/8/2005 From: NC Status: offline point proven lol....nah nascar isnt so bad...just wish it was really "stock" car racing (in reply to nj85z28) Post #: 36

RE: who would win? - 12/10/2005 9:56:11 PM    Lee Willis   Posts: 531 Joined: 11/22/2005 Status: offline Any car can be interesting if you get into it enough. The Taurus is no exception. Nascar "Taurus" is not a Tarus" - V8 with 18 degree heads, carb, restirctor plate, and rear wheel drive. But the SHO isn't a bad car. I can understand the fun. Just not my type. I like V8s, rear wheel drive, and a long hood. _____________________________ Aston Martin Vantage V8 Lincoln MKZ daily driver 1998 Camaro w. 408/AFR heads, etc.,+NOS street/strip (in reply to 85Camarodude) Post #: 37

RE: who would win? - 12/15/2005 6:25:07 AM    yamahaSHO   Posts: 9 Joined: 12/2/2005 From: Denver, CO Status: offline The Taurus is not an ideal platform, that's for sure. It is fun spanking a Ferrari or Porsche with my POS Taurus though. I'm not into the long hoods, but I do love power going to the right wheels, no matter what type of motor it has. Ideally, I'd prefer MR. I'm still working on trying to drive my roommate's, dad's new GT-40 and hopefully race against it when the new motor is done. As to the question as to why anyone would fix up a Taurus... This is about the only reason (although they can be made to handle very well too). On a stock motor, I've seen as much as 177hp/liter. Changing just the pistons will allow over 200hp/liter and still spin up to 8-8,500 RPM. Stock 2 years later I've also got a whole page of videos with a 650+ hp track SHO (below) doing very well at a few road courses. I believe I'm driving in one of the videos. _____________________________ Jason 2002 Honda Civic EX Coupe 1992 Taurus SHO 1995 Taurus SHO - Supercharged (in reply to Lee Willis) Post #: 38

RE: who would win? - 12/15/2005 6:42:05 AM    yamahaSHO   Posts: 9 Joined: 12/2/2005 From: Denver, CO Status: offline Actually, here are a few of my own track videos I made recently. Door Mounted Camera Hood Mounted Camera A view from the stands Me driving my buddies NA SHO And here's the track SHO at PPIR. Sorry, this stuff gets me excited :-) _____________________________ Jason 2002 Honda Civic EX Coupe 1992 Taurus SHO 1995 Taurus SHO - Supercharged (in reply to yamahaSHO) Post #: 39

RE: who would win? - 12/16/2005 12:22:17 PM    Patrick Posts: 349 Joined: 3/17/2005 Status: offline SHO, is there a broad aftermarket for your car? i would imagine not, thus really raising the price of things..no? (in reply to yamahaSHO) Post #: 40

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