RE: Is nitrous cheating?
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/9/2007 6:21:24 PM
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cbr600rx7
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LOL as alwase SPEC your my hero. This is a normal set up on most late modles. The only thing that is different from my set up is i have a ZEX window switch basicly the same thing. Nitrous when used correct is just as safe as running a turbo or blower. All power adders add strees on the engine not just nitrous and by running too much of any thing BOOST OR NITROUS something is going to give. Its been proven over and over again. I spend alot of time around guys that for lack of a better turm are ricers. They talk about how nitrous will blow your engine. They are the same guys that can buy a 60 intake that will add 35 HP to there D15 civic lol. For the ones that know a little more we know that nitrous has great benifits and a few draw backs like any power adder.
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/9/2007 9:37:31 PM
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camroadrenaline
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My opinion on nitrous......takes away all the skill. I respect a racer with skill and commitment much more than someone who hits a button to pass someone at the last second. I dont hate nitrous...just dont like it either
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/10/2007 2:58:13 AM
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cbr600rx7
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Once again there is no little red button. Nitrous is a art. Traction, timing, stages, shot size, all become part of when and how you use it.
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/10/2007 10:49:08 AM
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SpecterGT260
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ORIGINAL: camroadrenaline
My opinion on nitrous......takes away all the skill. I respect a racer with skill and commitment much more than someone who hits a button to pass someone at the last second. I dont hate nitrous...just dont like it either
u must be getting nitrous confused with "Nawzzzz yoyo dawg yo!"..... i believe thats its technical name. u know, the stuff that paul walker has attached to his little red steering wheel mounted button? u hit it and it makes blue flames shoot out ur tail pipe and you get a strange sense of vertigo? sounding familiar????
of course not, because its not real 
come on people, i want someone educated on the subject to post. ill go throw my bottle away right now if someone can give me a legit reason in a real life (not F&F) application to get rid of it.
almost nobody uses push button systems anymore. every kit sold now that ive seen comes with a wide open throttle switch, so it works just like any other power adder. you do not go warp phase 10 (well, 9.5 for nick cuz hes a pansy and only shoots the 75  ) when you hit the button. if you are behind in a race and hit it last second, you will still lose the race. It isnt awesome sauce (anyone who got the homestar reference is now officially cool). most people have it set up to run the entire length of the track. my 2ndary switch in the schematic above is designed so i can quickly engage the system in 2nd gear because i am an M6 car on a stock rear end and 200 ft lbs hitting all at once does nice things in 1st. However, this puts me in a distinct disadvantage because now my car is under-powered during the first 4-5 seconds of the race as compared to any other car.
i would like to know, how is mashing the pedal down in an auto SC car more skillful than coordinating and sticking a launch knowing that as soon as you go WOT the torque dynamics of the entire car will change dramatically in a nitrous car? In my old mustang (and on a crappy track with crappy hankook tires (never buy them, they suck ass (seriously, they are the reason i drive an fbody today may she rest in piece...))) (damn thats alot of parenthasis....) if i powershifted i could rip the wheels loose in the 2-3 shift. There is more to keep track of with nitrous, therefore it takes more skill.
for my setup, once i put in the big shot I will need to quickly shift 1-2, then flip the last switch. upon doing this my car will then gain about 150 hp and over 200 ft lbs and it will perform EXACTLY like a car that has 150hp/200tq over a stock ls1. no flames, vertigo, scotty need not beam anyone up!
you are allowed to have an opinion. a friend of mine has an lt4 converted 97 TA. he hates nitrous with a passion. he thinks its cheating. but then he followed that comment up with "you need to stay naturally aspirated, and maybe go turbo or something" . i have realized that EVERYONE who knocks nitrous is completely ignorant on the subject. with this in mind, u can still ahve ur opinion, just do urself a favor and realize that its wrong.
this is where id go [/rant], but im pretty sure some genius is going to follow up with some bonehead remark that seriously should not be uttered outside of paul walker's civic
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if she offers to shift for you its on.....
http://www.camaroforums.com/m_109346/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/10/2007 10:54:27 AM
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SpecterGT260
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for the record, the "wait to hit it" philosophy was started in the fast and furious. i believe it was the scene where someone sprays and the other racer says something like "too soon" and then wins the race.
you can safely spray on a motor for 15 seconds. if its taking u longer than that to cross the finish line you need to sell your GEO Metro and/or honda fit.
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if she offers to shift for you its on.....
http://www.camaroforums.com/m_109346/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/10/2007 3:51:48 PM
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cbr600rx7
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LOL  .
Every thing Specter said is very true. It is a art. You want to start the cycle as soon as traction allows you too this may sound easy but even in a Auto this is no easy task. I have a first gear look out on mine this means the car will not start its cycle until it hits second gear that’s just for starters, Window switches are set up to control what RPM range the system will engage at and shut off at. That’s just for starters. Like Specter said the engine has to be at “WOT” or (wide open throttle) for the solenoids to activate and most units use some type of FPSS just to be on the safe side. You also have a master switch mine is inside the center consol next to my fan, bottle heater, and purge. I keep it out of sight because I don’t like people asking what the switches are for, Most people don’t understand nitrous and its too much time trying to educate them after FF. By the way all this is on a basic set up. If you want you can go on and on about duel shots, direct injection, plate injection, dry single shot, wet single shot, running nitrous with slicks traction switches, etc. So yes nitrous is a little more than hitting a red button.
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/10/2007 7:26:45 PM
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SpecterGT260
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my NX 150 shot will be going in when i get back from vacation. its wheel rated, so its similar to a NOS or zex 180ish shot i believe 
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ORIGINAL: BigNic
if she offers to shift for you its on.....
http://www.camaroforums.com/m_109346/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#
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RE: Is nitrous cheating? - 8/11/2007 7:37:44 AM
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cbr600rx7
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What times have you been running with the 75.
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346 LS1 .60 trim, Methanol, Patriot duel springs, 228/234 114LSA, 3" empire Driveshaft, 15"prostars, TCI 4500 Stall.
Black 99
(3.8 DD) Whisper Lid, K&N, Magnaflow exhaust, 17"polished wheel
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